Chris
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Post by Chris on Apr 11, 2006 19:14:40 GMT -3
jeepgod, i'm not too sure why your being so negative to me. yes i dont know much about jeeps, you win.
as far as 4 banger axles, whats the difference if i put the 4 banger gears in my diffs. wont that be the same as putting on the 4 banger full axles? the 4 cyln has the AX-15 transmission, so does my 4.0, all tj's have the NV 231. im assuming the 4 cyln tj's have the same axles as the 4.0, so what would be different?
its not a daily driver, i wheel a little of everything, never on the highway.
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Post by bluerocket on Apr 11, 2006 19:42:47 GMT -3
The point that people are trying to get across is the absolute cost of doing it each way, let me lay out some numbers for you.
Regearing your axles: New carriers 60$ per axle New gears 110$ per axle* Master install kit 80-100$ per axle Professional setup 300-500$ per axle.
Grand total $1100 to 1540 to regear your axles.
*(yes they may be cheaper on ebay but you will need everything else to set them up.)
For much less you can locate a pair of 4 cyl TJ axles which are already setup.
Or if your going to spend the money, why not get a dana 44 rear end and spend the money regearing something stronger.
By all means do as you wish, its your money and rig. We arent trying to be mean or belittle anyone's knowlege on a subject, but rather trying to help out in making a well informed decision. It would be sad to spend $500-800 on regearing the d35, just to break it and realise you need to build a stronger axle for your application.
-Bobby
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Post by ayoung on Apr 11, 2006 20:04:59 GMT -3
The point that people are trying to get across is the absolute cost of doing it each way, let me lay out some numbers for you. Regearing your axles: New carriers 60$ per axle New gears 110$ per axle* Master install kit 80-100$ per axle Professional setup 300-500$ per axle. Grand total $1100 to 1540 to regear your axles. *(yes they may be cheaper on ebay but you will need everything else to set them up.) For much less you can locate a pair of 4 cyl TJ axles which are already setup. Or if your going to spend the money, why not get a dana 44 rear end and spend the money regearing something stronger. By all means do as you wish, its your money and rig. We arent trying to be mean or belittle anyone's knowlege on a subject, but rather trying to help out in making a well informed decision. It would be sad to spend $500-800 on regearing the d35, just to break it and realise you need to build a stronger axle for your application. -Bobby you couldnt have put it any better, exactly what i was trying to get across
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Post by jeeptech on Apr 11, 2006 20:10:18 GMT -3
I have an Explorer 8.8 complete drum to drum 3.55 ratio? $200
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Post by jeepgod on Apr 11, 2006 20:42:00 GMT -3
jeepgod, i'm not too sure why your being so negative to me. yes i dont know much about jeeps, you win. as far as 4 banger axles, whats the difference if i put the 4 banger gears in my diffs. wont that be the same as putting on the 4 banger full axles? the 4 cyln has the AX-15 transmission, so does my 4.0, all tj's have the NV 231. im assuming the 4 cyln tj's have the same axles as the 4.0, so what would be different? its not a daily driver, i wheel a little of everything, never on the highway. the internet is incerdibly difficult to express feelings. and you my friend guessed wrong about me. i am not being negative. i will stop (after this post) trying to help you with freindly advuce. you asked for advice, we gave it! the end! i was just trying to explain exactly what every other person in this thread tried to explain to you. the 4 cyl axles are geard from the factory with 4.10 so if you wanna get out cheap then just buy 4cyl axles until you can afford to build a d44 rr ot 8.8rr and have the new axles geared to whatever you want. that way you get a little better gearing and save your hard earned money for a rear end that won't explode when you go wheeling. sorry i am not a very nice person (or sound it in this thread) i wil excuse myself from helping you with advice in the future. i don't want you to get upset with me.
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Post by 88jeepyj on Apr 11, 2006 21:48:54 GMT -3
jeepgod, i'm not too sure why your being so negative to me. yes i dont know much about jeeps, you win. as far as 4 banger axles, whats the difference if i put the 4 banger gears in my diffs. wont that be the same as putting on the 4 banger full axles? the 4 cyln has the AX-15 transmission, so does my 4.0, all tj's have the NV 231. im assuming the 4 cyln tj's have the same axles as the 4.0, so what would be different? its not a daily driver, i wheel a little of everything, never on the highway. Most 4 cyl. jeeps have the AX-5 tranny.
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Post by axle on Apr 11, 2006 22:22:40 GMT -3
I think thats all that can be said, except that "jeepgod" is a good guy, and passionate about jeeps. Bob
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Post by chrometj on Apr 11, 2006 22:33:09 GMT -3
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Post by dsgray16 on Apr 11, 2006 22:36:17 GMT -3
no offense or anything but judging by your knowlege of this hobby, you may be out of your league starting off with 34 inch tires...it never hurts to start small and learn and build your jeep bigger as your knowlege of jeeps increases
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Post by chrometj on Apr 11, 2006 22:52:22 GMT -3
theres nothing better than running smaller tires, locked, with propergearing and good ground clearance, and smoke guys with 35s on the trail
dont gear the dana 30 or dana 35, completely swap the axles from a tj 4 banger, 5 speed, 4.11 geared, dont go to the trouble of gearing your current axles, it will cost you a lot of money that you will be wasting if you are planning to get new axles anyways
the axles from the four banger, you can get for 300ish bucks
run 4.11s for now, you have a 5 speed, meaning you currently 3.07 gears and they are terrible with your current tire combination
swap in the dana 30/35 complete axles from a 4 banger and be done with it, dont gear anything!
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Chris
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Post by Chris on Apr 11, 2006 22:52:49 GMT -3
no offense or anything but judging by your knowlege of this hobby, you may be out of your league starting off with 34 inch tires...it never hurts to start small and learn and build your jeep bigger as your knowlege of jeeps increases 34's are really not that much more than 33's. i dont beat the snot out of my rig so im not worried about it. i have been wheeling 34's for over a year with no problems. jeepgod, i do want your advice, like you said though, i guess i just took it the wrong way. now that it has been explained to me in a way i understand, i see what you all are saying. i dont want everyone to think im some ignorant person haha. i just wanted some advice to something im not that familiar with. of course i plan on building/buying some nice axles in the future. i just dont have the money for it right now. and i i do get gears, i can have them installed cheap. bottom line, thank you for all the help, even you jeepgod -chris
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Post by bluerocket on Apr 11, 2006 23:07:53 GMT -3
Side note: If you get a tj 4 cyl front with 4.10 gears, you can find a ford 8.8 rear with 4.10's to match it. Strong axle and still factory gears, might be another route to research.
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Post by chrometj on Apr 11, 2006 23:44:56 GMT -3
in my experience 33s were a big difference from 32s, 20lbs heavier A TIRE, that makes for a huge drivetrain power loss
i dont know the difference between 34 and 33, but im guessing its close
what kind of 34s are they?
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Post by Chris on Apr 12, 2006 7:21:14 GMT -3
super swamper tsl's. 34 x 10.50 x 15
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Post by PatriotYJ on Apr 14, 2006 9:26:02 GMT -3
i run 35s behind a 4 cyl w/4:10s as DD my clutch hates me and 4th and 5th gear are out of the question most of the time, but because 4:10s came in those axles getting a set of gears that are used is a hell of a lot cheaper to find
if your looking to lock it i have a brand new detroit lockright for the 30 AND it comes with FREE set of 4:10s for both front and rear! what a deal. and if your reallly feeling crazy i am pulling my axles out in a week and will be parting them out, and i'll sell you the used 35 lockright.
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