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Post by Tooch on Jul 16, 2005 20:30:23 GMT -3
I'm thinking of holding off on my lift kit for another couple months and putting a few more bucks into a long arm system.
My question to all of you is......
If i were to get a 4" long arm system now and in the future wanted to go bigger (say 6"), what exactly would need to be upgraded. I know some of the pieces and it could be all of them, but I'm not 100% sure so i'm asking.
Thanks for the info.
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Post by slab42 on Jul 16, 2005 22:42:19 GMT -3
depends on what brand you go with, if I am not high right now, and I remember correctly, RE has "upgrade packages" to go from one size to the next. but from 4" to 6" is gonna require a good amount of extras, besides just the suspension stuff, like steering parts, brake lines, beer... and you gotta get another drive shaft. I would say, do the lift once, and do it the way you want it. Why spend alot of money for a 4" long arm, just to go bigger? if you are already spending the money, wait a little longer, and do it right If you go to www.jeepforum.com and talk to jason (i think it is jason) from redrock, he gives jeepforum members discounts on RE lifts. I think his screen name there is redrock4x4 or something to that effect. RE has strict guidelines for advertised pricing on their product, so that is why you must PM him for the discount price. 5.5" LA normally is $2500, but i think you could get like $600-700 off if you talk to him
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Post by bluexj on Jul 17, 2005 0:49:56 GMT -3
Not sure about tj kits. But I called redrock for xj kits. And he was unable to give me much of a discount after the shipping to the east cost.
Chris
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Post by bluerocket on Jul 17, 2005 13:57:57 GMT -3
I believe the RocKrawler longarm system, the 4" and 5.5" systems ONLY differant part is the springs. So it might be worth getting a system that you can just replace the springs. I think that most longarm systems this will be the case though. Its a nice lift if you can afford it, we put 4" one on Sean's rubi last month, Bob has the 5.5" one I think. They are solid kits.
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Post by chrometj on Jul 18, 2005 4:24:47 GMT -3
consider...are you a daily driver?
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Post by jeepgod on Jul 18, 2005 8:45:46 GMT -3
the positive effects of a long arm kit are really only realized with over 6" lift (sorry makizoo) i did ALOT of reading about this and i would say if you want long arms go 6" now and do it once!
of course now everybody can talk B.S. and say i am wrong!
;D
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Post by jps4jeep on Jul 18, 2005 10:37:42 GMT -3
your wrong!
accually, I agree completely
If you do 4" now, make sure the kit has adjustable control arms. Only cause you are fairly new to the off roading thing, My theory is, let your jeep grow with your ability. If I was you, which you are lucky I am not!
I would use your tires as a dictator of modifications. example
stock tires: armor the heck out of it! skid plates, bumpers, OBA, winch, hi-lift, snorkle, storage, recovery gear, rocker guards.
then I would up-grade to 32 or 33" tires on you rubi on the stock rims, and then add a budget boost, same time adding other trinkits and doodads, oil cooler, aux fan, performance items, exhaust, air filter, bolt in roll cage.
then when those tires are done, get some 35" tires and a full on lift kit Long arm or not. at this point your jeep will have some miles, years, and dent in it, so you won't feel bad flat fendering it, or bobbing the rear quarter pannels, custom roll cage, 5.38 gears, atlas II t-case
This is basically what I did, starting back when I was 13! had 31's on my truck, then a small lift and some 33's, swapping on 36" tires for the trail, then I got my first jeep, which I never lifted, but it was locked, cut inner fender to clear 31's, then when that got totalled, I swapped everything from that jeep to squeeky, when those tires were junk, put 33's on, I am simply waiting for those tires to die, then I will be on something a little larger
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Post by mmagnumpi9 on Jul 18, 2005 11:27:34 GMT -3
Very well said. (jeepgod and jps4jeep) If you plan things in the right order you won't have to remod stuff you already did and your jeep can grow with you saving cash.
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Post by Tooch on Jul 18, 2005 11:39:13 GMT -3
stock tires: armor the heck out of it! skid plates, bumpers, OBA, winch, hi-lift, snorkle, storage, recovery gear, rocker guards. then I would up-grade to 32 or 33" tires on you rubi on the stock rims, and then add a budget boost, same time adding other trinkits and doodads, oil cooler, aux fan, performance items, exhaust, air filter, bolt in roll cage. then when those tires are done, get some 35" tires and a full on lift kit Long arm or not. at this point your jeep will have some miles, years, and dent in it, so you won't feel bad flat fendering it, or bobbing the rear quarter pannels, custom roll cage, 5.38 gears, atlas II t-case That's basically what i was going to do but because a Rubicon is already geared for 33's, i was going to upgrade to 33's and then follow your "instructions." The reason i was thinking about a long arm system is becaues i thought it would have been cheaper in the long run to get a 4" long arm kit and just upgrade a few parts a couple years down the road. Looking at it now, i might be better off getting a kit that is upgradable like RE's and go that way instead.
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Post by rockdaleTJ on Jul 18, 2005 23:29:33 GMT -3
Its late but heres my opinion. go with RE 3.5 super flex and run 33's, or 34's:) for now. (looking back i wish i had just gotten the super flex rather than the standard, because of the adjustable control arms) do you really want to run a 6 inch lift on a daily driver? and like john said, armor it, recovery gear, with your t-case and drivetrain, youre good to go for a while. (until you run 36's, atlas, 60's and flatfender and dovetail the rear) ;D
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Post by chrometj on Jul 19, 2005 0:29:00 GMT -3
id listen to john and todd, its a fun..yet expensive build process...and as the jeep gets older..you will..and youll get a daily driver and u can make ur jeep insane!!
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Post by jps4jeep on Jul 19, 2005 7:23:19 GMT -3
Daily drivers are great, I remember my first one... 1988 dodge omni, got almost three years and 30K miles, all with out an oil change, then sold it to Tony, and he beat the living piss out of it as a Ice racer, and still runs from what he said!
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Post by makizoo on Jul 19, 2005 9:31:04 GMT -3
I'm running a 4" LA and a 1.25" BL with a belly up skid. I've got enough room for 35's, if I add 1" bumpstop extensions. Also, a lower center of gravity than a 6" suspension only lift. Plan is to upgrade steering, axles and bumpers before stepping up in tires.
Figure out where you want to go first then how to get there. Armor first. Lift later.
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Post by SPYDER on Jul 20, 2005 18:57:11 GMT -3
johns suggestion is exactly what i am doing....wheel stock, then upgraded to mild lift and 32's armored and locked, then upgrade to 35's and now im planning the next stage of full on trail rig status.
i would hold off a little and just armor the hell out of the jeep. maybe add a 1" bl in the mean time to give the tires a little more room to breath. then in a bit once you are ready get a 4-5" lift and some 33's or 35's depending on your preferences and then add the other accessories you want/need.
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Post by chrometj on Jul 20, 2005 23:01:17 GMT -3
like matt says, no matter what you do...youll always want to build bigger & better...you dont realize it until you catch the disease!!
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