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Post by mprayii on Jul 27, 2005 17:55:00 GMT -3
Anyone ever hear about or use the SRC Front and rear bumbers w/ tire carrier?
They are cheap so I am leary of them... But I really like there style.
Also they come with a 2" trailor hitch that is NOT rated, anyone care to tell me what that means.. use trail example and technical definition if you know them.
Thanks!
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Post by bchcky on Jul 27, 2005 18:03:34 GMT -3
most companies do not rate the receivers that they build into their bumpers. its expensive and time consuming to test them. could you tow a small trailer with it? probably, depending on the bumper mounts. would it be wise to do trail recovery with a shackle in one of the unrated bumper receivers? probably not. i ran into this problem when i was looking at the rear tube bumpers from www.kevinsoffroad.com i sent him an email asking what the capacity was, and he basically told me what i just said. again, a small tow, or an easy pull where there is already tension on the line might be ok, but i wouldnt yank on it. get yourself some solid rear recovery. something like a class III hitch. or if you have a wrangler, you could always drill a hook into the frame (and they do sell specific ones too). as for the company quality, never heard of them, but how cheap are we talking? if they have good pictures, look at the welds. if those look good, metal is metal (as long as they use the right thickness etc..) do they have a website we can take a look at?
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Post by cyberxen on Jul 27, 2005 19:45:21 GMT -3
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Post by bluerocket on Jul 28, 2005 1:50:12 GMT -3
A yank on the bumper is fine so long as its mounts are good. I know people who pull trailers off the bumper mounts and have done snatch recovery. Its basicly common sense, dont so something the frame mounts cant take off the rear bumper, AKA 3000lb trailer pull. My estimation is dont pull over a class II trailer on the bumper no matter the reciver size.
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Post by mprayii on Jul 28, 2005 10:42:11 GMT -3
Thanks for the link, I only ever see them in my free 4x4 magazines (you know which one I am talking about, its like the sears catalog of 4x4's!)
Thanks for the input on the towing and pulling, I may have to reconsider my bumpers... To bad as I really liked these bumpers.
Oh the rear with hitch and tire carrier, is like $500.
and the front is almost $300.
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Post by Tooch on Jul 28, 2005 10:49:09 GMT -3
Fabtec makes something very similar to this bumper and because I have a personal vendetta against smittybult, I'd say go with the Fabtec.
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Post by cyberxen on Jul 28, 2005 10:53:20 GMT -3
What's your beef with Smitty?
I had their nerf bars on my Dodge Ram truck, rusted through the chrome and looked like "stinky stuff"e after 1 winter.
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Post by Tooch on Jul 28, 2005 11:59:40 GMT -3
What's your beef with Smitty? I had their nerf bars on my Dodge Ram truck, rusted through the chrome and looked like "stinky stuff"e after 1 winter. I've had their nerf bars on my Jeep for 5 months and I'm already there with them. I'm putting some money away each week so I can get some A to Z Fabrication rock rails, but their products just simply suck! Also, when I first bought my Jeep, I bought a new front end through smittybult and when it arrived, it looked like a 2 year old made it and welded it together. I've never welded a day in my life, but I think I could have done a better job.
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Post by SPYDER on Jul 28, 2005 13:44:33 GMT -3
99% of bumpers that aren't rated for towing are rated for recovery. which is odd cause the towing capacity of a wrangler is 2klbs, but recovering another vehicle (usually a jeep) is more like 6-7klbs if its stuck in mud.
so simply they don't rate their bumpers for 2 reasons, 1) as previously stated the money to test and 2) liability. If you use the bumper to tow and it fails, they can be sued. if they don't rate them and you do use it to tow, its your own fault. its that simple.
if you want something to tow with, get a frame mounted hitch and a bumper you like that can come without a hitch. or just get the bumper you really like and get frame reinenforcements.
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Post by cyberxen on Jul 28, 2005 14:24:31 GMT -3
I thought they had a three year warranty on their chrome? I was going to send mine back but eneded up getting rid of the truck.
Which front end did you get? Did you send it back?
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Post by bchcky on Jul 28, 2005 14:29:46 GMT -3
so simply they don't rate their bumpers for 2 reasons, 1) as previously stated the money to test and 2) liability. If you use the bumper to tow and it fails, they can be sued. if they don't rate them and you do use it to tow, its your own fault. its that simple. if you want something to tow with, get a frame mounted hitch and a bumper you like that can come without a hitch. or just get the bumper you really like and get frame reinenforcements. yeah, what i said with a bit of addition. again, i wouldnt yank on a receiver in a bumper that isnt rated unless you reinforce the mounts, but if they put shackles on the sides, those are usually safer because they're right near the mounts, so they're stronger. physics 101. but again, i say get a hitch. you're safe with that.
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Post by Tooch on Jul 28, 2005 15:13:23 GMT -3
I thought they had a three year warranty on their chrome? I was going to send mine back but eneded up getting rid of the truck. Which front end did you get? Did you send it back? They do come with a warranty with the chrome, but i got the powdercoat and it has a 10 year warranty. The only problem is that they have a few dings on them because of offroading and they won't replace them, but instead just paint over them for me to cover it up. If you ask me that's the worst solution possible, so I'm kind of stuck with a "stinky stuff"ty product. The front end I bought was their double tube bumper. Now keep in mind this was before I realized I was going to be using this Jeep for offroading, so I went with style instead of use. Now I'm running a Toys X Troy front bumper and when I get it next wednesday I'll let you know how it does. Oh yea, I did send the bumper back because it was just crapy craftsmanship. And that's giving it an overstatement. When I sent it back, they said it must have been a flaw in their manufacturing and their other bumpers, even the ones of hte same style, aren't that crappy, so the'll replace it for free. Well, needless to say, I was a little weary and just said no thanks. NEW BUMPER: ORIGINAL BUMPER:
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Post by JeepFan555 on Jul 28, 2005 15:18:51 GMT -3
hey tooch when are you getting that toys by troy bumper? DId you end up getting it from group buys?
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Post by Tooch on Jul 28, 2005 15:35:42 GMT -3
hey tooch when are you getting that toys by troy bumper? DId you end up getting it from group buys? Yea, I got it from 4x4groupbuys.com and they are definatly the best customer service people I've ever had to deal with in my life. I loved everything about them and next time I have to buy anything (tXt diff guards, not that I have it planned out or anything) I'm going to buy from them again. So I highly recommend them, not only for their products, but for their service as well. As far as when I'm getting it, that should be August 3rd, but it's being shipped to my parents, so I won't be able to put it on for a couple days after that. I also bought the light brackets that came with it and I'm looking for the hi-lift locks but nobody seems to stock it so I might have to go through tXt directly. Overall the front end with the light bracket was a great deal and I can't wait to put them on and start playing!! I'll post pictures when I get it on, because I also got a great deal on some KC fog lights and KC spot lights and a cool toy that I'll save for a suprise.
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Post by rockdaleTJ on Jul 28, 2005 16:12:41 GMT -3
hey tooch when are you getting that toys by troy bumper? DId you end up getting it from group buys? a cool toy that I'll save for a suprise. a 12000 lb warn???
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