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Post by dsgray16 on Oct 10, 2006 18:29:05 GMT -3
This is probobly my next step. Just thought i would start a thread because, A i need some help deciding what to do, and B, because I thought it would be nice if there was actualy a real topic to discus in the tech section ;D First off, i already have a setup im looking at. Its a kit that comes with a 1.5 dia ram (single ended) all the hoses and fitting you need and weld on tabs for both ends. Heres a pic, and the website with more infor is this : www.rockstomper.com/catalog/steering/ramassist.htm So my questions are, to anybody that knows about this stuff... Should this setup work on my setup? Iv got the 1.25" solid stock tie rod to weld too...where should i moun the other end? Is this the right size ram to use? |
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Post by Twisty on Oct 10, 2006 18:32:41 GMT -3
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Post by jeepgod on Oct 10, 2006 19:33:54 GMT -3
as far as postion of the ram you need to work that out to get your throw correct (extension of ram, centered to go lft & right). it should be no problem to weld to your tie-rod. this is the type of thing you need to mock up and tweek it to make it work. just takes time and patience. this is how we figured out the steering on "big jim"
are you sending the box out to get drilled and tapped or are you going to do that yourself?
honestly the whole set-up looks like a good deal, i wouldn't imagine it would be that hard?
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Post by jps4jeep on Oct 10, 2006 19:52:25 GMT -3
I would be a bit scheptical of anything that says, No Instructions, No Directions, No Clue, drill at own risk bla bla bla. I have been considering a Hydro assist set up, but I am simply gonna wait to blow up my current crap.
For the price of that kit, I am sure you could piece it together a little cheaper through various supplyers. Get the ram from Northern tool, the lines from Parker Hydraulic, make the taps, bolts and random fittings from a hardware store.
I would prefer hydro assist as opposed to full hydro for a occasional street driver. 1, it is legal 2, you have a mechanical connection between teh frame and axle 3, should you ever stall, you will loose some control with full hydro (yes it will work, but will not respond as it would if engine is running)
I would not worry about your steering linkages, you said it was 1.25, what wall is it? .25?
I would mount one end to the passengers side axle tube, and the other end to the drivers side Tie rod, and as parallel tie rod as possible so there is bind free movement in a single linear direction. If you have an extra hole somewhere on you knuckle, that would be a more Idea connection point, would not be out in front of everthing behind the tierod, should you bang your tie rod good enough and bend it back into the axle, then it will bind.
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Post by 2000Cherokee on Oct 10, 2006 20:26:52 GMT -3
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Post by chrometj on Oct 10, 2006 20:38:34 GMT -3
you can use your exsisting steering box with this? with some modification?
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Post by 2000Cherokee on Oct 10, 2006 20:43:57 GMT -3
with the link that twisted posted you can. im not sure about the other setup.
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Post by bluerocket on Oct 10, 2006 21:46:35 GMT -3
that setup will work great, you just need to find space for it to fit in the front end. I"ve been trying to figure out where to put mine.
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Post by dsgray16 on Oct 10, 2006 21:58:41 GMT -3
First off, its not schetchy that the kit doesnt come with directions, its a universal kit, its just got the parts you need, you put it together how ever you want. Its pretty bassic if you have th ediagram of where to drill and tape your steering box. After that its just a matter of puting the ram in the right spot and connecting the hoses.
Yes Krome, you can use your stock steering box for this
Finding a good spot for it will be the hardest part i think
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Post by dsgray16 on Oct 10, 2006 22:00:32 GMT -3
Also, John your prob right about being able to piece together a similar setup for less money.. i just dont know exactly what i would need
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Post by ayoung on Oct 10, 2006 22:07:07 GMT -3
i know derek from ftr just wend hydro on his mj, if you want i can get him in touch with ya on how he did it...i know he sent his box out to have someone do all the drill/tap/rebuild of it because his box had seen better days and he didnt have time to do it all himself...i cant remember how much it cost, i wanna say like 500 total
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Post by chrometj on Oct 10, 2006 22:08:11 GMT -3
you cant use the fittings they provide in the kit to thread into where the exsiting lines go?
ive seen most kits come with new steering boxes, like psc, why is that? better steering ratio?
obviously i know nothing about hydro steer
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Post by jeepgod on Oct 10, 2006 22:30:41 GMT -3
Also, John your prob right about being able to piece together a similar setup for less money.. i just dont know exactly what i would need i wouldn't want to waste my time "piecing it together" a friend of mine has done the drill and tap on several boxes it isn't that hard. do those links talk about boosting the pressure from your stock p/s pump as well? i am to lazy to look at the links |
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Post by mmagnumpi9 on Oct 10, 2006 23:09:24 GMT -3
looks good to me dan!!!
I think everyone on here wants to do it . . . but who will get there first!!
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Post by dsgray16 on Oct 11, 2006 8:50:13 GMT -3
As for the drilling and tapping, it doesnt look that hard to do, i have a diagram of exactly where to drill. I also have an extra steering box laying around so if i screw up no big deal.
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