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Post by nirres01 on Aug 2, 2004 0:13:04 GMT -3
I've "aquired" a winch. Actually stole it from my dad but he never uses it so why not put it to work. A friend and I powered it up and it works fine. The winch is a 4200lbs winch made from Rule industries which is used for marine purposes. (Like lifting anchors and crap.) So i figure let's mount this thing on my front bumper, but my stock bumper isn't wide enough. 2 mounting holes in the winch go past the bumper. So now what should i do? I'm going to need a plate put behind the bumper, in front of the grille. And the i'd love to get some kind of housing around the winch to protect it. I was considering just buying one on ebay that can fit a warn winch but i don't know if the winch would fit. I wish i could just drill some holes in the bumper but i can't. Any advice?
Also the wire that i have wound on it now is about 50' but only about 1/4" in diameter. Will the thickness be good enough to pull another vehicle? Or should i invest in a shorter but thicker wire?
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Post by jps4jeep on Aug 2, 2004 7:53:51 GMT -3
Cause you are mating a marine application to a off-road vehicle (Which I have a tendency of doing) you wil most likely have to have something custom fabricated. I would not secure it to a factory bumper! you will most likely just rip it off the front of the jeep, cause it is only held on by 4 bolts in alternating locations.
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Post by slab42 on Aug 2, 2004 16:45:02 GMT -3
yeah, you have to mount it to a plate that is mounted to the frame (using the T55 torx bolts that are holding your bumper to the frame)
also, keep in mind that a jeep weighs about 4200 lbs with 2 people, and a winch mounted to it, so you will be really working the winch. It might not be worth it to fabricate a mounting plate, just to have the winch break down.
If you do decide to use the winch, make sure it is mounted secure, and use a scatch block to double your towing strength. (assuming you have already replaced the cable to one that can hold alot more than 4200 lbs!)
For the record, I will not be standing within 150 ft of your jeep if you are using the original cable to winch yourself out! ;D
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Post by jeepgod on Aug 2, 2004 20:28:01 GMT -3
The winch that you are trying to mount will not be strong enough to pull out a stuck vehicle and really not worth the effort. When buying a winch it is recommend that the winch can pull 1 1/2 more than the object you are pulling.
Sorry to be a downer, it is nice to get free stuff. But as I have experienced on several occasions just because it is free does not always make it good idea.
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Post by jps4jeep on Aug 3, 2004 9:49:20 GMT -3
You have to remember, generally when some one is stuck, it is cause they are in maybe deep mud (are you good with pysics cause thats where this is going) Liek slab said, the jeep, two people, the which and everything else may weight 4000lb, but there is a suction that is exerted on each individual tire that is working in a equal pull in the oposite direction. as well as gravity (9.245 newtons ok I dunno about that one) But you will accually be pulling some where in the area of 8000lb+ now if you want to put the winch on there go ahead and do as previously stated, But I would only use it to do rock recovery, and then I would still be a little weary of it's performance. Do you know if it is a 5/16 line?
Hey Todd, Is that you?
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Post by jeepgod on Aug 3, 2004 19:09:54 GMT -3
Yes John, it is I the JEEPGOD!
Ha-Ha
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Post by nirres01 on Aug 3, 2004 19:59:22 GMT -3
Like you said it is a downer to realize that maybe i shouldn't mount my winch. I guess i won't go through the trouble. Thanx for all the help though.
Now say that the person i am pulling, or myself, isn't stuck in mud. Say for instance in some snow. Would that change the "physics" (the effectiveness of the winch)?
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Post by jeepgod on Aug 3, 2004 23:21:32 GMT -3
Sure if the object had no resisitence placed on it and the winch was rated to pull it sure. I guess that would have soething to do with rolling mass. I think maybe I made that up. But a winch to pull a boat on to trtailer is pretty small so I guess it would work. I would just go buy a Warn.
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Post by nirres01 on Aug 6, 2004 18:52:27 GMT -3
Believe me, i would love to buy a Warn winch (as well as my lift kit and new tires) but i'm broke. I'm trying to get a buddy to just fabricate a plate to attach to the frame.But we'll see how long that takes. I'll keep you posted though. Thanx for the advice, though.
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