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Post by Tooch on Sept 6, 2005 13:43:07 GMT -3
Ok, so here is a trivia question/problem for everyone. As you all know, I'm a little light happy and I have KC driving lights and KC spot lights mounted on my Rubicon. Well, the other day, when I turned the Jeep on, the driving lights didn't work. After a little trouble shooting, I realized that the fuse was blown and it needed to be replaced, so I just took the one from the spot lights and switched them for a temporary fix. Now, the next time I went to get into my Jeep, the fuse was blown again? So after a little more trouble shooting, I realized that every time I turn my Jeep OFF the fuse blows. Now this doesn't happen when I have the spot lights on/off, or when I have my undercarriage lights on/off. But when my driving lights are on, the fuse blows. When they are off they don't. So my question to all the Jedi masters out there, is how is this possible and what's the solution so I don't have to replace my fuse everytime I turn my Jeep off.  ? Some notes: I'm driving an 04 Rubicon, not like that matters It's just a standard battery The wiring is stright to the battery The fuse is about 1ft away from the battery The wiring harness/kit is straight from KC and it's not my own system. The lights are brand new I'm running the KC Hilite relay (25 AMPS) |
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Post by mprayii on Sept 6, 2005 16:34:18 GMT -3
buy a breaker switch and replace it with that, that way you only have "flip the breaker" and not buy tons of fuses!
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Post by mprayii on Sept 6, 2005 16:34:41 GMT -3
and check your grounds.
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Post by Tooch on Sept 6, 2005 16:36:50 GMT -3
That was what I originally thought it was, but then I checked all my grounds and as far as I could tell, they were all ok. I just don't understand why they blow when the Jeep gets turned off instead of turned on. |
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Post by XfaCtoR on Sept 6, 2005 19:18:39 GMT -3
one of thew power wires could be grounded..(plastick wore off in a spot and it on metle)
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Post by mikeswrangler on Sept 6, 2005 23:45:18 GMT -3
whats your power wire run from(direct battery)? You running relays for your lights?
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Post by jps4jeep on Sept 7, 2005 9:52:03 GMT -3
where you tapped your KC into your vehicles factory wiring, your grounding it out. (bare wire hitting metal) either that, or your relays are wired wrong, or are failing.
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Post by Tooch on Sept 7, 2005 10:00:08 GMT -3
whats your power wire run from(direct battery)? You running relays for your lights? Yes, I'm tapping the power right from the battery and running 1 relay for each set of lights. It's the wiring package KC give you when you buy the lights. where you tapped your KC into your vehicles factory wiring, your grounding it out. (bare wire hitting metal) either that, or your relays are wired wrong, or are failing. Well I know the relays aren't wired wrong because htey came with a quick connect and they only fit one way. It seems to be a consencious that I'm grounding somewhere I should be. Now, even though I've checked for this about 4 times, I'll check all my grounds again and see what I come up with. Thanks again guys. |
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Post by J.T.Woody on Sept 7, 2005 10:06:35 GMT -3
It seems to be a consencious that I'm grounding somewhere I should be. Now, even though I've checked for this about 4 times, I'll check all my grounds again and see what I come up with. Thanks again guys. Check ALL of your wiring, Jeff, especially power wires. Have you installed anything else right around the time you started having problems? |
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Post by Tooch on Sept 7, 2005 10:10:08 GMT -3
Check ALL of your wiring, Jeff, especially power wires. Have you installed anything else right around the time you started having problems? No, I haven't installed anything in a couple weeks but it just started happening on Saturday. I was out having some fun on Saturday and they worked all day starting up and turning off. Then Saturday night, when I was leaving the bar, the fuse blew and now it keeps blowing. |
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Post by jps4jeep on Sept 7, 2005 10:10:41 GMT -3
First I would check where you tapped into the factory wiring. Make sure the wire has not come exposed, make sure you have the right wire and not a negative trigger.
I would check places where the wire might Chaiff (sp) some where, like when you ran the KC's wires through the fire wall, or through the cowl for the windshield ones etc....
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Post by Tooch on Sept 7, 2005 10:14:17 GMT -3
First I would check where you tapped into the factory wiring. Make sure the wire has not come exposed, make sure you have the right wire and not a negative trigger. I would check places where the wire might Chaiff (sp) some where, like when you ran the KC's wires through the fire wall, or through the cowl for the windshield ones etc.... Ok, I'll do that but I didn't tap into the factory wiring. My switches are the only thing that is modified and they are also the only thing running through the firewall. The KC's are straight to the battery and they don't run through anything that would cut/chafe the wire. Ironcially the spot lights do, because they run through the cowl, but the fog lights run down the right side of the jeep, over the wheel well and then through the front grill. I'm just going to take it all apart and check every place I can possibly find. |
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Post by Tooch on Sept 7, 2005 10:14:36 GMT -3
First I would check where you tapped into the factory wiring. Make sure the wire has not come exposed, make sure you have the right wire and not a negative trigger. I would check places where the wire might Chaiff (sp) some where, like when you ran the KC's wires through the fire wall, or through the cowl for the windshield ones etc.... Ok, I'll do that but I didn't tap into the factory wiring. My switches are the only thing that is modified and they are also the only thing running through the firewall. The KC's are straight to the battery and they don't run through anything that would cut/chafe the wire. Ironcially the spot lights do, because they run through the cowl, but the fog lights run down the right side of the jeep, over the wheel well and then through the front grill. I'm just going to take it all apart and check every place I can possibly find. |
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Post by JoGumby on Sept 7, 2005 11:04:11 GMT -3
Seems to me since its been working until u had "Fun" with it your most likely looking at a connection problem. First off the "grounding" problem your most likely having is a Power supply wire being grounded. Not a loose or faulty ground. Loose/faulty ground would cause 1 or both lights to go out or flash which could heat up wires & cause fuse to blow just not the way your explaining problem. When you were having "fun" I'm curious if it was wet out or you did a little mudding. If Yes; I'd first look at your lights & relays. I'd make sure they're not holding any moisture or water. Then I'd check the power wires paying careful attention to the condition of them. ie chaffing..close proximity to chassis <ground> & moisture. If it wasn't wet out & no mud I'd reverse my troubleshooting of the circuit & follow the power wires from battery to relay to lights. Then I'd check the switch side. In this case I'd be inspecting for a potentially loose connection that could be grounding out. Then I'd still check out for moisture problems as explained earlier. If you do not find any problems after these checks then a simple troubleshooting check would be to swap your relays. See if problem switches circuits & you'd know for certain whether relays good/bad. I'm pretty certain you'll find the cause of your problem with a good visual check followed by a relay swap. Good luck & let us know what you find ;D
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Post by Tooch on Sept 7, 2005 11:10:46 GMT -3
I already tried the relay swap, so I'm just going to do a thorough check of all the wires tonight/tomorrow and we'll see what happens from there.
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