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Post by littleREDtj on Mar 15, 2005 16:20:51 GMT -3
Hey Guys,
What does everyone think about these two different axle sizes? I've got a dana 35 with big 33s and I'm pretty worried about snapping a shaft, especially after checking out that other link that jeepgod has up.
I've got money to spend, but not enough to buy a brand new, locked dana44 with rear discs set up for my TJ......
....so anyway, i'm just looking to get some opinons on doing a stripped dana 44 or a stripped ford 8.8 out of the junkyard and what the best way about doing it is. Is there anyone out there that has done either of these from scratch (ie. no spring perches/shock mounts/gears/shafts/blah blah you know the drill.)
Thanks.
- Jay
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Post by SPYDER on Mar 15, 2005 20:31:38 GMT -3
find a 44 that isn't full width is going to be hard so the easiest solution would be to fine an 8.8 from an explorer and it will have discs and possible a limited slip. i know my explorer sport even came with 3.73 so if i wanted to use it i wouldn't have had to change the gears right away.
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Post by xdgedgex on Mar 15, 2005 20:44:57 GMT -3
i have a 8.8 out of a 97 explorer with 3.73, disks, and limited slip for $200. you can reuse your existing mounts from the 35, just make sure you get them off pretty clean and they are all the same size, otherwise you will have to buy a kit which is about $250ish. also for the 8.8 you need a spicer flange adaptor which is about $25. cant you find a dana 44 out of a tj from a junkyard to bolt it? if not go for the 8.8, there are a bunch of write-ups for the Tj swap.
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Post by 1BadTJ on Mar 15, 2005 22:33:46 GMT -3
i think D44's from TJ's are going to start popping up more and more in salvage and junk yards. Easy swap, less labor intensive.
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Post by XfaCtoR on Mar 16, 2005 0:26:46 GMT -3
car-parts.com you can search the local junk yards..1100 for a low mile 44 out of a sport =\..just an option
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Post by JeepFan555 on Mar 16, 2005 0:37:25 GMT -3
I have a question about this too, I am planning on doing this same thing over the summer to my YJ. Is the labor about the same intensity possibly more/less? I want to get a 8.8 just because it is easier to find but is my 4 banger going to have trouble with that as a rear axel?
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Post by xdgedgex on Mar 16, 2005 0:57:50 GMT -3
i wouldnt think the engine would have any problems, just make sure you get the same gear ratio. plus is is a hell of alot cheaper and easier swap it into a yj than a tj or zj.
i think it is 95 and up explorers that have disk brakes and 31spline shafts.
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Post by JeepFan555 on Mar 16, 2005 1:00:05 GMT -3
Do i have to get an upgraded master cylinder becasue of the disc brakes. And I have 4.10 gears in the front of my Jeep I believe??? Does that mean I need to get 4.10 gears for the rear? I get all confused with gears...
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Post by xdgedgex on Mar 16, 2005 1:02:06 GMT -3
yeah need matching gears. there are 8.8's available with that ratio to. as far as the master cylinder it should work, mine works fine going from drum to disk.
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Post by JeepFan555 on Mar 16, 2005 1:04:37 GMT -3
well summer is coming quick if anybody knows where I can get one with 4.10 gears cheap let me know.
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Post by bj-666 on Mar 17, 2005 1:17:33 GMT -3
8.8 is substantialy stronger as well as having disks it is the winner the c-clips are the only down side but i have never heard of one breaking on an 8.8 you can make all your own mounts out of 12" of 2.5 box tubing and two bolts and be don't no need to spend 250 on brackets. i was even able to reuse my e-brake cables (but that was on an xj) COT: Continuous output torque rating MOT: Maximum output torque rating Dana 35 rear axle COT: 870 MOT: 3480 Dana 44 rear axle COT: 1100 MOT: 4460 Ford 8.8 28spline COT: 1250 MOT: 4600 Ford 8.8 31spline COT: 1360 MOT: 5100 Dana60 semifloat COT: 1500 MOT: 5500 o yea here is as much info on the two axles as you should need www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24854&highlight=d44+break+strength |
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Post by 97Sahara on Mar 17, 2005 10:50:15 GMT -3
Plus if the 8.8 was to break, the discs would keep the axle shaft from flying out.
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Post by HotRodCJ on Mar 17, 2005 19:18:20 GMT -3
i believe you would need a proportioning valve for rear disks.
d44- bolt in
8.8- takes some work.
i like the bolt in stuff myself.
what size tires are you running?
locked or open?
if your not going bigger than 35/36 you would most likely never break a d44. especialy if you are running radials.
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Post by littleREDtj on Mar 18, 2005 12:09:52 GMT -3
I'm running 33x13.50 Toyo MT. Its a heavy heavy tire. I don't mind doin the fabrication for the ford 8.8, especially if i can get it with rear discs. I don't mind doin the work to make it fit, i was just looking to see what everyone thought about the two, strengthwise and ............strengthwise.
I think i'm going with the 8.8 at this point
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Post by SPYDER on Mar 18, 2005 13:43:09 GMT -3
if your not going bigger than 35/36 you would most likely never break a d44. especialy if you are running radials. i beg to differ....first trip on my 35's my 44 blew up. 2g's later i was back on the trail and still wanting to upgrade it more with alloy shafts or going to a prorock 60. |
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