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Post by Twisty on Oct 1, 2006 20:09:59 GMT -3
why dont you just swap in the new axles, get some 35"-36" tires, and get either the TNT XJ kit, or the Claytons kit (front/rear coilovers)
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Post by 2000Cherokee on Oct 1, 2006 21:02:43 GMT -3
the clayton front adn rear coils is a waste of money. i could fab something up that would be cheaper than that
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Post by dsgray16 on Oct 1, 2006 23:12:29 GMT -3
Please dont take this the wrong way... Are you this experience at fabbing this type of stuff? Just curious, if you are thats awsome, maybe you can help me out with something
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Post by 2000Cherokee on Oct 2, 2006 0:04:19 GMT -3
im not but i have some friends who are pretty good at welding and stuff like that. and they all said that they would give me a hand when i am done im looking at something like this
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Post by bluerocket on Oct 2, 2006 2:00:13 GMT -3
My opinion:
Leave it leaf in the rear, if you want to build something build a set of radius arms for the front. On a number of occasions I have considered changing to rear coils, every time I concluded it is a ton of work. Yes the price may seem very low, but in the end it takes a long time and a lot of work to do it. I built my front longarms and it was a massive learning experience, a full on 4link in the rear is a much harder project.
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Post by dsgray16 on Oct 2, 2006 11:38:45 GMT -3
just go with leaves and put money into more important things like the axles.
speaking of which what is your plan for that besides fullwidths?
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Post by 2000Cherokee on Oct 2, 2006 12:00:49 GMT -3
as far as the axles.
im going to go with probably 4.88 gears, and im talking to the guys at moser engeneering about axle shafts. as far as lockers im thinking of going spools front and rear. with manual locking hubs in the front so i can unlock them when i want.
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Post by ayoung on Oct 2, 2006 12:02:48 GMT -3
i think online forums have corrupted 2000's logical thought process....money into an XJ is a waste of money
but seriously, building entire suspensions is not a weekend project...and you say you have friends that are going to help you, but when the little weekend suspension project turns into a few months of frustration, your friends are going to be a lot less willing to spend all their time working on your rig...ive seen it happen a lot, just something to think about before undertaking a massive project that will disable the vehicle for quite some time
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Post by mmagnumpi9 on Oct 2, 2006 18:03:40 GMT -3
listen to ayoung, bluerocket and dsgray, they're the only ones here that wheel xj's hard.
Wait on the new axles and linked setup. Lift your jeep enough to stop rubbing and go have some fun. Talk to the xj guys in person, see how awsome their jeeps do on the trail while you're there wheeling with us instead of looking at disaster of a project in your yard.
Dont believe all the hype of the web wheelers out there, there is ALOT of bull**** on the web. Get out there an get some real world experience under your belt and learn whats best for you. In the end its your jeep, you can do whatever you want . . . but
we're just trying to help you out so you get over your head in a project and run out of money
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Post by rockdaleTJ on Oct 2, 2006 18:14:40 GMT -3
listen to ayoung, bluerocket and dsgray, they're the only ones here that wheel xj's hard. Wait on the new axles and linked setup. Lift your jeep enough to stop rubbing and go have some fun. Talk to the xj guys in person, see how awsome their jeeps do on the trail while you're there wheeling with us instead of looking at disaster of a project in your yard. Dont believe all the hype of the web wheelers out there, there is ALOT of bull**** on the web. Get out there an get some real world experience under your belt and learn whats best for you. In the end its your jeep, you can do whatever you want . . . but we're just trying to help you out so you get over your head in a project and run out of money Amen. Couldnt have said it better myself.
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Post by 2000Cherokee on Oct 2, 2006 18:36:27 GMT -3
so you guys dont think i should swap in teh axles? i was going to do that just so i could go deeper in gears and there are more gear and locker choices in general with the D44 and the 9". with the d30 and the 8.25 the deepest i can go is 4.56..
and i just cant see gearing the axles i have now since they are strong but not overly strong.
also if i keep the stock axles what size tires do you think they could hold up to? i have reading stuff on different sites and they all say different things. so im just wondering what you guys have experienced
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Post by rockdaleTJ on Oct 2, 2006 19:51:01 GMT -3
Look at what people are running on this board. I dont drive as hard (throttle wise) as a lot of guys here, and run 36's on a 30/44 with 4.88 gears and detroits. Ive yet to blow something up, only one front u-joint and that was after running 2 days at paragon. dsgray has run 35's on the same combo for a while with no catastrophic failure, jeepgod has q's on the same.
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Post by 2000Cherokee on Oct 2, 2006 19:52:13 GMT -3
anyone have any experience with the 8.25?
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Post by jeepgod on Oct 2, 2006 19:57:32 GMT -3
we aren't saying don't swap in the axles. we are saying don't bother with all the "mods" to the suspension. make the axles work with a "stock" xj suspension.
there is a ton of fab work involved in doing all the work you are talking about. and friends aren't gonna do the work for very long on your jeep. and that is a fact. friends will say "yea,yea we can do that" but when it comes down to it. most will not. i have set up a couple of axles (brackets etc) for people and it is alot of work. but not overwhelming., i would would suse the stock suspension design and get the axles in there and be done with it.
besides xj's are throw away jeep you wheel them for a few yrs and start over. just save the parts that matter and build another one
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Post by 2000Cherokee on Oct 2, 2006 20:01:08 GMT -3
would my existing front suspension parts work for the front 44? or should i invest in something new?
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